Nice Guys Finish Last?
May 14th, 2008 by EdLast night, we were channel surfing and came across an episode of “A Shot At Love 2 With Tila Tequila.” (This was one of dem shows I gave a chance to, but it lost my interest about half way through the season.) On this night, my attention got caught by a guy holding it down, sporting a (University of) Hawaii T-Shirt. I was like “Very Niiiice!”
Bruddah’s name was Kyle and he’s a Real Estate agent from Honolulu. It soon became apparent that this dude was a little off his rocker. The other cast members referred to him as Creepy Kyle for the way he stalkingly stared at Tila. Eventually, he was booted, but this post is actually about the other guy who got booted: George.
George is a waiter from Tampa Florida and is apparently known as the “nice guy.” As he was making his tear-filled exit speech (which I cracked up to by the way), he mentioned something that resonated with me.
He angrily/tearily stated the following: “If you’re a nice guy, you do nice things, you get !#$% in the end, you get !#$% now and you’re going to get !#$% for the rest of your life.” Basically that “Nice Guys Finish Last.”
I consider myself a nice guy too, but I’m not a pushover. I think there’s a difference. I really don’t think that if you’re a nice guy you’ll get, as Georgy mentioned “!#$% in the end.”
What do you think? Do you think nice guys get walked on and finish last? What about nice girls or nice people in general?
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Tags: A Shot At Love 2 With Tila Tequila, creepy kyle, nice guys, nice guys finish last, Tila Tequila
May 14th, 2008 at 10:16 am
it is better to be nice than not. like you said: no be a pushover and it will be all good.
May 14th, 2008 at 11:14 am
My bigger question here is, how come our town got so many guys named “Kyle”? Bwwaaaaaaaaaahahhaaaaa.
Nah, in my experience, you must needs get somewhat curt (maybe that’s too strong a word; hey, how come we got so many guys named “Kurt” in our town as well? Bwwwwwaaaaaaa) when things get all kapakahi. Miscommunications, things that don’t turn out so well despite your best written and carefully-worded instruction(s). Me, I don’t blow my top, though, I mean, I’ve had enough compliments about that to brag about it. I do say stuff like, “you know, I’m not trying to make trouble or anything, but, I have to say . . .” when it comes to, I dunno, customer service issues when I’m out purchasing goods or services to “WHAT THE HECK DID I SAY WHEN,” heh, just kidding; I mean, “Yeah, OK, here’s my e-mail that says _______ and refers to ________ policy, and, linked here _________.”
And doing all that makes me feel like not a nice guy. That I have somehow relinquished the goodness of my local boy-ness and born and raised locally-ness and somehow put on the Sauron’s ring all of a sudden . . . maybe it’s not that extreme.
I don’t think nice guys finish last. BusinessWeek (02/12/2008 issue, “Nice Guys Don’t Finish Last,” by Pete Engardio) and a few weeks ago, Time (”Study: Nice Guys Don’t Finish Last”) both did recent articles on how nice guys don’t finish last. Pretty good reads, so, go check ‘em out.
I think if you’re a nice guy 100% of the time, you can sleep well at night. I don’t know if being a nice guy to everyone necessarily equates into having integrity (after all, you can be a nice guy and not confirm when someone asks, “does this make me look fat?”).
1/2 the time, though . . . heh, ’specially if you do what I do, you can’t afford (yes, comes down to the bot$$$$tom line as well) to be a nice guy alla’ time.
It’s ideal to be a nice guy. Just doesn’t always work out that way.
But, us male, local 30somethings, we managed to have our formative years rife with a nice gallery of justice offered inna sci-fi (i.e., Star Wars, Kikaida, The Avengers and X-Men comic books), so, we tend to let the nice guy gene beat the hell up on our Id . . . sometimes the outcome goes more toward the latter.
I’m gonna go step on some living quarter-sized being now. Prfffft. Joke.
May 14th, 2008 at 11:25 am
tila tequila is overated…can u say myspace hoor?
May 14th, 2008 at 11:52 am
In this case, he should be happy he finished last. Most nice guys who finish last should be setting their sights on different (better) races. Girls who go for the idiots, aren’t worth the trouble for nice guys. Smart girls will pick good guys; good guys just need to be smart enough to go for the good girls.
Let’s flip the script: Why do good guys always go for b*tches? Because they’re idiots.
May 14th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Tila Tequila doesn’t float my boat at all. What’s with all these dating contests where one guy/girl is the prize for all to aspire to? Its like that one person has all the ‘hand’ in the contest. Is this a way to start a healthy relationship? I have viewed TT’s show like a few times for no longer than 2 minutes when channel surfing. Who does she think she is, a freakin god or something?
May 14th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Bad boys get the girl, but getting a date with a superficial wahine is not worth selling your soul.
Tila Tequila has had so much plastic surgery that she’s worth $500 at the recycling center.
Nice guys (or rather, nerds) win in the end. I have my MD, a booootiful wife and NO STDs, while some of the big and tough football players I knew in high school are pumping gas. (Altho gas attendants deserve love, too.) It’s funny that some of the guys I remember from high school wrestling are doing MMA now.
I touched on this a little when comparing Taiwanese (stereotypically nice and whipped) and Korean (stereotypically tough, ubertestosterone) men a long time ago: http://www.xanga.com/franksabunch/540791796/item.html
In the end, being nice is the way to go….
May 14th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
I think nice guys or girls win in the end. I think everything happens for a reason. If you are a nice guy/girl I believe good things will happen for them eventually. But the nice guy/girl would also have to be smart enough to know & make good choices.
May 14th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
tila haters of the world unite!!!
i think if the bro was really a nice guy with a good head on his shoulders then he wouldnt be looking for love with such a skeezer.
true, nice guys sometimes finish last..but bad guys sometimes dont finish at all!!
May 14th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
* JMAW: Word!
Nah, Frankie is one cool dude folks.
* Chicken Grease: Hehe, it’s either that, Chad, Kevin, or “Boogah”. Hehe!
* GumbysHorse: Yeah, she took off on myspace, but not sure about her TV star ratings…
* Cynical: Good point.
* KPD: Yeah, she doesn’t do anything for me either, but apparently, she has a following, from both sexes no less!
* franksabunch: But you’re not really nice after all your comments!
* mcat: True dat!
* GumbysHorse: Bet! He should be looking for love somewhere else, not on a reality show for Pete’s sake!
May 14th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
At least in my book nice guys and girls do win in the end.
May 14th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Hheheh, I should SAY about Dr. .Franksabunch’s comments. There are not so nice guys (like me) out there who don’t have STDs. And nice guys who DO have STDs (I mean, what about those, “I have herpes but my partner doesn’t” for instance? Those sure look like nice people to me) and some, yeah, who do.
And maybe not in my experience, but, not all M.D.s are “nice” (I know Dr. Franksabunch is
) if my ears ringing from friends telling me their office visit stories are any indication. “Bad bedside manner” anybody, heh. Then, there’s Hannibal Lecter, M.D., BWWWAAAAAAAAA.
Certain heeded, parents-want-you-to-be professions, I dunno, at some point you must needs be ruthless ’cause it’s the nature of the job. Like mine
, too.
I don’t feel like such a not-so-nice guy anymore, heh.
May 14th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Sorry, don’t mean to post THREE times (hey, odd # good luck, right?). Check this out, TV outbursts (most of these folks w/their ‘tudes as millionaires, no? So much w/finishing last, heh): http://gawker.com/390156/top-ten-angry-on+camera-meltdowns .
The guy’s one of my heroes, but, I just love the O’Reilly outburst. I feel the same he does sometimes; f*&^in’ staff, heh.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Dear Chicken Grease:
Tell me, Clarice, are the lambs still screaming? Phtphlphlthplhlphlthl!
Sincerely yours,
Hannibal
Bwahahaha! =D
May 15th, 2008 at 6:04 am
Just be nice.
Although one of my favorites songs is “Nice Guys Finish Last” by Green Day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmcceXwPRHI&feature=related
May 15th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Heh, too funny Dr. Franksabunch!
May 15th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
* wicked: I heard dat!
* Chicken Grease & franksabunch: Looks like you two are talking to each other. Hehe!
* hemajang: Kewl! Mahalos for sharing!